Uec rx problems

[Ben]

What goes on, I have lost the Optus B3 transponder operating on 12525Mhz. using a UEC receiver DSD910, the receiver just keeps re scanning and locks out all other functions.
The signal is there as I can decode on other receivers, the Uec decodes all the other transponders on B3 that are FTA.
A friend of mine is reporting the same thing, anyone any thoughts about this. Ben

[bassett]

Try disableing the first LNB setting, and start loading your satellites from option two.

[jmc96]

you mean channel stack? Done that.

I've had the same trouble with my UEC 910 and 720. I've enabled other B3 transponder settings and put 12525 last, and amongst other positions in the setup table. UEC scans the other TP's but still won't scan 12525.

If 12525 is enabled on its own, in any position in the UEC setup table, including home setting, my UEC will just cycle itself from 8032 (which is UEC code for factory reset) then restarts and just keeps cycling over and over.

I know other receivers are good on 12525.

Any other ideas?

jmc96

[Ben]

Thanks folks, it seems I'm not the only one with this problem, i assume there is something strange in the data stream on that boquet that upsets UEC receivers, perhaps it will dissapear in the near future and my wife will be happy.
Ben.

[Firebird_AUST]

Thanks folks, it seems I'm not the only one with this problem, i assume there is something strange in the data stream on that boquet that upsets UEC receivers, perhaps it will dissapear in the near future and my wife will be happy.
Ben.

Well it's now 3 1/2 years later, and i'm trying to get 12525 to load up,(AURORA UEC 910 )
but i'm only getting half the channels (15)that are available on this transponder,then when i change things around i get all the other 8 available channels but NOT the original 15 that i had before the rescan , AGGGGHHHHH don't know what to do about this problem ?
I'll try to set this transponder as the "Home" if it's not successful, i'll set it as signal set up #24 and see what happens ! Will i get all 23 F.T.A channels, there must be a way to do it?
My workmate only really wants it to watch DUNA (Hungarian channel) , but i want to give it to him with ALL the available B3 FTA on it :)

[Firebird_AUST]

Well i want to load up the FTA channels on 12525 and also 12658 V
tp 7 but regardless having both of these in the "Signal Setup" after a tune and rescan, it is only one or the other not both at the same time.
Also i found that more transponders appear as found transport streams after a rescan than i program into the "signal set ups" ?

. . . Perhaps some kind soul can Blindscan Optus B3 for me and pasts n post all the found transponders,symbol rates,pol.fec into this thread PLEASE. ;) then i could put them as "Signal setups" and hopefully find more FTA channels.
BTW, Lyngsat does not list all the same transponders that i've found ?

[siliggy]

Try this:
Signal setting 1 = 12706V 22500 3/4
Disable the others.
Then rescan.

[Firebird_AUST]

Try this:
Signal setting 1 = 12706V 22500 3/4
Disable the others.
Then rescan.


Thanks, i will give that a go soon,and let you know if it worked :)

[Firebird_AUST]

@ siliggy , i tried that and it gives me the fta channels off 12525 , but not the other lot of fta channels from 12658 ?
Even when i disable "Home" and change all signal setups to LNB 2 (as bassett suggested earlier in this thread), still no luck , also can't get the fta SBS channels to load up either from 12719 V 12600 5/6

Maybe it's the UBI transponders that stuff it all up ? as i put in 12425 H just for the pretty fta UBI info channel.
I'm still holding out for a method to do this setup.
I suppose it's purpose is as a "Provider" box only for Aurora/Austar/Select etc and not made to be used for FTA use.
If i had my new (soon to buy)Octagon 518 box i could just blindscan B3 and enter all found transponders into the UEC 910 signal setup menu :-)
I might disconnect the coax,do a factory reset,disable "Home" signal setup,and re enter only the FTA transponders under LNB 6 and see how that goes ?

[siliggy]

Ive got one of those boxes(UEC 910). Will dig it out and have a play after sorting out some stuff i need to mail.

[viewer]

[QUOTEIf i had my new (soon to buy)Octagon 518 box i could just blindscan B3 and enter all found transponders into the UEC 910 signal setup menu :-)
I might disconnect the coax,do a factory reset,disable "Home" signal setup,and re enter only the FTA transponders under LNB 6 and see how that goes ?[/QUOTE]

No use putting single channels into a UEC buddy.
They only do bouquets properly, and look for a NIT
As for setting them as LNB 1 LNB2 etc, your also wasting your time if the LNB is the same each time!
What you should be doing is leaving the lnb set at 1 for what you have.i.e.11300 dual.
Then you disable the home frequency TOTALLY, and load the other frequencies into Signal 2, signal 3 signal 4 etc.When you finish all that, and have them stored, then you do the tune and rescan routine.

[SPLog]

Just had a look with my Xtreme decoder on Network search
using 12706 V 22500 3/4
next loaded via nit is 12525V 30000
then 12657 V 30000
finally 12733 V 22500

so looking at what is loaded via a network search - "12733 V 22500" is most likely causing the problem as there is no signal (well Im getting nothing on it atm ) which the uec wont like.

I'll dig my uec 910 out and have a look.

[SPLog]

ok weird for the uec 910 on globecast
loading 12706 V 22500 3/4 as signal setup 1 (home) or as signal setup 2 seems to miss alot of the channels for some reason.

I found that by using 12657 V 30000 in "signal setup 2" and 12525 V 30000 in "signal setup 3" works it loads up the globecast channels on 12706 V, 12525 V, 12657 V

[SPLog]

Bugger disregard my earlier post, I must of fluked it as I cannot repeat it.
It is strange as the uec seems to scan all the right transponders but it some how drops off some of the channels of each transponder.

[siliggy]

Yep same crap here. I can get it to load a huge number of "Accessible services" but they dissapear.

[SPLog]

I also tried an UEC 700, due to its firmware it only has the one transponder setup (home) so I used 12706 V 22500 3/4.

All the globecast channels loaded up fine and showed up in the channel area.
But there was a problem :rolleyes: On the free to air channels I was getting scrambled error over the picture or a black screen, so I tried the old card trick and used my Aurora card in the decoder and it fixed the problem but soon as I removed the card the error / problem occurred again.

[siliggy]

ok weird for the uec 910 on globecast
loading 12706 V 22500 3/4 as signal setup 1 (home) or as signal setup 2 seems to miss alot of the channels for some reason.

I found that by using 12657 V 30000 in "signal setup 2" and 12525 V 30000 in "signal setup 3" works it loads up the globecast channels on 12706 V, 12525 V, 12657 V

I noticed a few non reapeatable flukes like that. I thought after a fluke then set all the sig setups to disabled so that it cannot rescan but it rescans setup 1.

Now this is different. Using a 10700 LNB, With the LNB set as 12525 and the signal 1 as 10700,30000,V,2/3 it will some times scan the 12525 channels in!
Then change the LNB to 12657 and it scans in the 12657 channels but still wont load more than one if you have LNB's as 12525,12657,12706 dammit!
I give up.

[Ocean]

I give up.


When I threw some UEC receivers in the bin during my big move, the garbage truck driver gave me an odd look after hearing the crashing sound of dumped UECs hitting the inside of the mostly empty compactor....the sound to me was oddly satisfying.

These receivers do have a very good quality picture, but have clunky, slow and most unusual software. When used as a set-and-forget receiver for a service such as AURORA they can be quite good, but try to do anything else and frustration rules ! The best thing about them is their automatic recovery after power outages, they boot up and NIT scan (usually) quite successfully.

To a satellite reception enthusiast they are junk - as you must agree !

Well done with the testing, I've had amusement with your persistence.:)

[siliggy]

To a satellite reception enthusiast they are junk - as you must agree !

Well done with the testing, I've had amusement with your persistence.:)

Yep not a good box for an enthusiast. Except for the signal meter. It's great for the little tv on the roof because it gives a sensitive reading before lock then a fine reading after lock.

I did not give up. Went quite a bit further.
If 12674 22500 H 3/4 is put in as sig 1 LNB1.
Then 12706 v 22500 3/4 as sig 2 (LNB 2 optional).
Then 12407 v 30000 2/3 as sig 3 (LNB 3 optional).
At first it appears that you only got the UBI channels but then if you press the "TV" button, it gives you the choice of UBI or "public". When you select public you get 16 of the globecast channels and all of the B3 Aurora/sky channels. It appears that the Globecast NIT/SID setup is not quite right. It seems to stop at 16 channels regardless of the transponder order. The above method will get Abu Dahbi from 12525 but not RT or
ERT.
I also played with a friends UBI DSD990 similar but slightly different problem. So had a chat to the technical people at UBI who are in turn going to have a chat with Globecast and UEC. The guy from UBI let some of his thought slip out when he said "If we get a new box we may not have this problem any more" So I have managed to stir up all the big players with this issue. Can't do much else for you Ben.

[Ocean]

Is it possible the UEC software won't allow two services in its memory with the same PIDs or something silly like that ?

I'm looking for a reason it won't see all services in your situation, it's just a (feeble) thought !

[siliggy]

Thought about the dual pid idea but there is no double for RT. So I think it may be SID's not PID's.
http://www.lyngsat.com/optusb3.html

[Firebird_AUST]

for your various attempts and persistance with this UEC problem in relation to all the "12525" channels not loading up in one go,only half here ,half there etc.
You either get this with a rescan, and that with another rescan, but not every channel loading up as you should.
I'm trying to get ALL of the available FTA channels from B3/D2 so i can set it up for a work collegue to watch Duna,SCTV,Russia Today,Press TV etc.

I'm extremely grateful to you all for taking the time to experiment with this !

Thanks Brett :)

[Firebird_AUST]

Just a quick "check in" to see if anyone has had any progress with getting all the B3/D2 FTA channels to load up in their UEC ?
BTW , I'm using an Aurora UEC 910 unit.